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Lol, there is a certain someone on my facebook whinging about how being a Knight in Shining armour is so very hard, and, women, if you can't find one, it's all your fault!

Not laughed so fucking hard in a while.

Let me make this clear: I know some genuine knights in shining armour. I'm even marrying one. So I know a few things about them.

They're really easy to spot. They're the ones who, if you press them, will have a tale or two about dropping everything to help a friend in a time of need - it might be throwing themselves the length of the country on short notice, or sitting vigil in a hospital chair, or sitting up all freaking night talking to someone (through a door people) because the person on the other side of it was having a hard time and just needed it.

Let me tell you a little something about knights - real ones, that is:
  • They aren't all guys. I know a good many girl knights.
  • They don't just save girls. Or people whose pants they want to get into. They save anyone - men, women, kids, old folk, the odd animal; they are equal opportunity heroes.
  • They won't go around crowing about what Good People they are - you have to ask them about it.
  • They save people because they care about them. Because it's the right thing to do. Because, at the heart of it, they couldn't not save that person.
  • They, all of them, understand that, at times, you need to take the armour off. You have to let yourself get saved once in a while. Because everyone stumbles - it's simple human nature. And all of them, eventually, without fail, with more grace than I can put to words, silently dust themselves off, respectfully nod to whoever gave them the hand up, put their gear back on, and trudge back into the fight.

Some of these people I have the deepest honour of being called their friends. I'm incredibly proud of that fact.

Let me tell you a little something that knights I've known will NEVER do:
  • They don't whine about how hard it is being good. Being nice. Because to them, being good and being nice aren't facades they put on. They aren't fronts they put effort into. It's just what they are. They're decent, lovely people who can't stand to see anyone else in pain.
  • They don't draw attention to that fact. They'll never be the ones jumping up and down screaming 'I did that, I helped!' You can tell who they are, because in a crisis, when everyone else is still making shocked and horrified noises, they'll be the ones who quietly and carefully sidle up to you and ask what they can do to help. Even if it's just being there, or even, at times, understanding they can't help this time.
  • They never demand payment for their help. Or expect it. In any way. As matter of fact, my experience with most of them is if you so much as bring up taking them out to dinner in thanks, they'll look really, really awkward.
  • Those times when they slip? When they fall? When they need someone else to pick up the pieces for a change? They never blame on anyone else. They most certainly never blame it on an entire subsection of the population. And they never threaten to stop helping people ever again when they do - because that would be like they were threatening to not be themselves.

Which is why I'm laughing.

Because the post from this whiner in question essentially boils down to:
'I KEEP being NICE to girls, but it's SO HARD. (Strike one.) It's so HARD and is MADE WORSE by the fact NONE of them will SLEEP with me after. (Strike two.) Women, I am so ANGRY at you that if you aren't CAREFUL, I will STOP being NICE (Strike three) and I might NOT even sleep with ANY of you EVER again!(Might. Die. Laughing.)'

No, seriously, I can't breathe. Give me a second to stop wheezing.

Ok, sorry, I'm back now. Ahem.

So, yes - this isn't the cry of a knight. Not a genuine one. This is the cry of someone who...well, he doesn't even want to be a knight. Being good and decent and selfless isn't something that someone who comes out with a whine like that can grasp. What he wants to do is look like a knight, because he feels if he does, he'll get laid and be liked. Because he can't grasp the fact that people aren't nice to knights because of what they do. They're nice to knights because of who they are.

There's also the small fact that knights see women as more than walking vagina recepticles, they see them as, y'know, people, but that's all part and parcel of the above, I feel.

So yes - in defense of knights, they are awesome, awesome people. This guy is not one. People out there - please don't confuse the two.

Date: 2012-05-24 06:12 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] frontal-bread.livejournal.com
In slight defence of the guy (Emphasis on slight, I dont know the guy), I can appreciate high levels of frustration from personal experiences of mine (Which I shan't go into on here)

He is probably just lashing out without thinking about what he is actually mad at.
Edited Date: 2012-05-24 06:13 pm (UTC)

Date: 2012-05-24 06:26 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] helbling.livejournal.com
Yeah, if it was a one off flare, I could understand it. Everyone's temper gets the better of them at times.

It's the further dogpiling and sticking to it, even when others point out that painting the entire half of the population that IDs as a woman with the same brush (or the blinding assumption that knights have to be male, and WHY wouldn't a woman want one?) is unfair that is making me throw my hands up.

Date: 2012-05-24 11:05 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] pujaemuss.livejournal.com
Having just found out which guy this refers to, he's indefensible.

PJW

Date: 2012-05-24 06:23 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] pujaemuss.livejournal.com
While I am highly entertained by the post at large, I'm going to take a moment to be entertained by the phrase "walking vagina receptacles". My brain's not sure whether to take that as "women who hold vaginas," which I suspect is probably something else he has a problem with, or "vaginas for storing things in" which has led my brain to Rule 34 this:



Yes, my brain is wrong and disturbed.

PJW
Edited Date: 2012-05-24 06:23 pm (UTC)

Date: 2012-05-24 06:27 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] helbling.livejournal.com
I feel there is a certain tag that I may now need to file this post under, just because of this comment :P

Date: 2012-05-24 06:37 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] pujaemuss.livejournal.com
{snerk!}

PJW

Date: 2012-05-24 07:05 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] pujaemuss.livejournal.com
Just gone back to his website; he's got a new technique! Punch people in both ears and cure mental illness, alcoholism, drug addiction, PTSD, liars (although be careful, they could be lying to you when they say if it works*) and, of course, paedophilia. Although you have to make sure to protect against hypnotists, because they can undo all the good work, so you should punch people in both ears while they're thinking of hypnotists to make sure that they don't go to one.

"the biggest breakthrough in Medicine since my invention Microsurgery."

http://www.kadir-buxton.com/index.htm

PJW

*Actual warning.

Date: 2012-05-24 07:23 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] frontal-bread.livejournal.com
Even if it cures mental illness, you'd then have to seek treatment for broken ear drums >.>

Date: 2012-05-24 06:31 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] frontal-bread.livejournal.com
i think I just snorted with laughter.

Date: 2012-05-24 07:57 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] warriorsmurf.livejournal.com
Is it cool if I link this? I've seen similar rants in the past, but this one is awesome and it cannot be said enough.

Date: 2012-05-24 08:28 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] helbling.livejournal.com
Of course, if you'd like to :)

Date: 2012-05-24 08:34 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] sparkindarkness.livejournal.com
Amen to all this

Date: 2012-05-24 10:16 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] cheekychipmunk.livejournal.com
Flames, flames on the side of my face... heaving, heaving breaths...

Seriously. So. Much. Hate. for him right now. Dude, when MC is agreeing with you, give it up!
Whiny, self-entitled, delusional jerk.

Date: 2012-05-25 06:01 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] cheekychipmunk.livejournal.com
Have you seen the extension of the debacle? It just gets better and better...
And by better, I mean more likely to make me snap and trigger a homicidal rampage.

Date: 2012-05-25 06:05 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] helbling.livejournal.com
I'm trying so hard not to look. Seriously, I started with a very low opinion of this guy, and it just keeps getting lower.

And lower.

And lower.

*hugs* Try to stay away if you can my darling. There is no saving that one - he'll end up with exactly what he deserves.

Date: 2012-05-25 06:10 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] cheekychipmunk.livejournal.com
I'm going to try... but yeah, it is very close to causing crazy.
Also, the comment that I reported? The guy has responded, on the thread...yeah. Peter has convinced me not to reply. But... yeah.

The worst thing is, as the rage goes away, the self doubt sets in, and I start to wonder if I'm in the wrong...

Date: 2012-05-25 06:23 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] helbling.livejournal.com
Dude, if you're in the wrong so is...oh, everyone on this post. And who's objected on that post.

And everyone on Divalion's original post about Nice guys.

Let's not forget the entire site of Jezebel.

Or the majority of sf_d.

How many people do we need here? Because that's hit 10,000, just in places I can actually name who've had discussions on this stuff before. It's without going into the huge numbers of rebuttals to bullshit like the 'friendzone'. That's not even going into nebulous numbers, those are actually, honest to god people who I can give you LISTS of who have covered this stuff.

No question in my mind. No doubt.

He's just a festering wankstain :D

Date: 2012-05-25 06:25 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] cheekychipmunk.livejournal.com
And suddenly, laughter, and I don't feel so bad.
*hugs* Thank you, ever so much

Date: 2012-05-25 06:28 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] helbling.livejournal.com
Oop, my mistake, sf_d has 14K members, not 7k. My mistake. So actually, we're headed for 20k people here. Enough for you? ;)

Date: 2012-05-25 06:31 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] cheekychipmunk.livejournal.com
Oh, go on then.

You baffle me with logic, and well reasoned arguments. (A refreshing change to that post)

Date: 2012-05-25 08:11 am (UTC)
From: [personal profile] marmaladecat
I was going to pick out individual lines with which I agreed here, but then I realised that actually I'd just be quoting the entire damned post back at you. <3 <3

Date: 2012-05-25 04:39 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] dbexx.livejournal.com
I love this post.

Date: 2012-05-25 07:31 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] same-difference.livejournal.com
This is both a good post in it's intended purpose, and an excellent guideline for self improvement too. Thanks for putting this so eloquently.

Date: 2012-05-26 12:45 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] hermit.livejournal.com
My walking (and sitting) vagina receptacle applauds you.

*grin*
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